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can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

weichai — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 17:44:31 GMT

I can do a 'grab' in 21:9 when using Cinema Pro but thats not quick or useful. Am I missing a setting somewhere as all I can see is 1:1 4:3 & 16:9?

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

disimes95 — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 19:29:35 GMT

Hi @weichai ,

I assume you could take photos in that proportion. Have you tried:

While using the camera, tap (Aspect ratio icon).
Select a setting.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

drlmiles1 — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 20:07:04 GMT

21:9 format is *not* an option in the camera app

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

weichai — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 21:18:14 GMT

um, 21:9 ratio is not an option there

@diogosimoes4321 wrote:
Hi @weichai ,
I assume you could take photos in that proportion. Have you tried:
While using the camera, tap (Aspect ratio icon).
Select a setting.

, seems strange considering Sony describe it in their 'camera hints' as availible on Xperia 10/10 plus

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

weichai — Sat, 01 Jun 2019 21:21:04 GMT

you are probably correct, maybe Sony will add 21:9 format as softwre update, pity as your pictures filling the screen would look awesome

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

bazw — Sun, 02 Jun 2019 17:00:29 GMT

Update coming next week from what I hear. Should sort the 21:9 photos out 👍

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:20:20 GMT

I cannot take 21/9 photos even though it shows up in the Support App on the Xperia 1, it's very annoying.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

elsayyid — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:49:59 GMT

You can only tak 21:9 photos through the CinemaPro app. Such a strange omission from the regular camera app, to be honest. It's little things like this that keep Sony from being top dog in the mobile business.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:35:14 GMT

Strange, they include a video tutorial on the Xperian1 that shows the 21/9 option on the regular camera app. Somebody messed up!

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Roberr1 — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:39:44 GMT

What on earth is going on?! How can Sony release a phone with a dedicated aspect ratio screen size, even with recording tools to fit the format, but not so for normal front camera shots?!

How can any multi-national top tier product be given the green light for release with such a glaring feature missing?! I was so looking forward to shoot in that aspect ratio from something as slim and

convenient as a smartphone, but I didn't think that the software wouldn't allow for it!

Can anybody confirm if an update has corrected the matter, and if some kind soul please upload a screen recording of the menu option and what a shot looks like. I've combed the web but cannot find any 4096 x 1728 imagery (2.39:1).

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 17:04:25 GMT

I don't think any update is planned to enable 21;9 photography. I swapped emails with Sony Support for over a month and finally they said, "the camera is intended for casual snaps, not professional photography". They never explained whybancideo tutorial on the Xperian1 shows how to take 21;9 photos using the camera app, or, how the inferior Xperia 10 can take 21:9 photos. The Xperia 1 was, in my opinion, released too early. If the Xperia 2 is released in a few months with improved camera I will be very annoyed!! The advert campaign for the Xperia 1 was based on the camera, their are 21;9 photos on the handset.

The camera can take 21;9 photos, open WhatsApp, take a photo within WhatsApp, and ta da, 21;9 photo ...

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Roberr1 — Mon, 08 Jul 2019 22:04:05 GMT

Thank you for your reply.

The Xperia 10 *can* take 21:9 photos? I didn't realise that, but there is a 4MP difference bwteen the Xperia 1 and Xperia 10 is there not?

And you're saying that third party apps can allow for photos in 21:9 aspect ratio?

How can they be releasing an Xperia 2 when the first just came out?!

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:13:49 GMT

Seems to me the Xperia 1 was released too soon, it's like a beta version

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Qatrium — Tue, 09 Jul 2019 05:39:39 GMT

This has been already escalated and we're waiting for an official response.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Roberr1 — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:05:31 GMT

How long will an official reply take please, on average, because another poster quoted a month.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 01:14:36 GMT

I swapped eleven emails with Sony Support, that's eleven each, after ten elusive answers simply listing stats and praising Cinema Pro I was told the camera app is designed solely for casual photography only, they still have not said if the 21:9 AR photo function will be added.

As WhatsApp takes 21:9 photos using the main camera I don't see why the function cannot be added.

Also, still waiting to hear why a video tutorial on the Xperia 1 shows how to take 21:9 AR photos using the camera app , when , clearly, it does not .

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Roberr1 — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 00:18:18 GMT

I have recently had it confirmed to be by an owner of the Experia 1 that the bundled 3rd party app "Cinema Pro" app does allow photos to be taken via the 'grab' button whilst the app is in standby, i.e. not recording, but that the 21:9 stills photos were nowhere near as good as those taken by the 1st party dedicated main camera app.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Nathaniel — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 00:30:05 GMT

Yes we all know this, open the camera app in WhatsApp and that also takes 21:9 photos.

There is no reason the camera app should not take 21;9 photos. Why base the advertising for the Xperia 1 on the aspect ratio and the camera when the camera cannot take photos to fill the screen, it's just daft, like buying a new television and discovering it only displays in 4:3 so half the screen is wasted.

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

Roberr1 — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:04:20 GMT

I didn't know that it could be done, so I thought that I would post it for others benefit.

Recent word back from Sony reveals the reason behind the decision to only allow 16:9 still photos:

"The normal camera app is intended for casual usage of snapping everyday life, whereas Cinema Pro is intended for creating stories using 21:9 with professional parameters and colour settings"

And that does come through in the way the apps have been designed and behave. It is however, completely disjointed thinking, and would never happen with an iPhone experience, but that's why Sony languishes at the bottom of the smartphone market, and so they'll have to figure it out.

I have also managed to find out the reduced dimentions of the "grab" photos from pre-recorded video: 2,520 x 1,080px, this down from the original 4K 3,840 x 1,644, again more disjointed thinking, only now even withing the video app.

I am presently trying to find out the respective image sensors sizes, perhaps then this will answer once and for all if it will ever be possible to shoot 21:9 still shots with no compromise..

Re: can I take a picture in 21:9 like the Xperia 10's?

drlmiles1 — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:59:40 GMT

@Roberr

Do have a look at the three options available in WhatsApp - you can get full proper 21:9 pictures in that (without any controls other than the shutter button, sadly)