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Bring back the headphone jack!!!

sonyuser8 — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:41:30 GMT

Hello, I'd like to express my disappointment that Sony has abandoned its typical design (dedicated camera button + 3.5mm headphone jack + bezels) which made it stand out and now follows the trend of pointless changes by dropping the headphone jack in flagships or the camera button in mid-range devices - providing solutions that seek to solve problems which don't even exist! The 21:9 display seems logical idea for multitasking and I support it (although it would be nice to have various display ratio options). In my opinion forcing customers to choose either a dedicated camera button or a 3.5mm headphones jack in the latest smartphones line (Xperia 1, 10, 10 Plus) is the first step of Sony losing its identity and blindly imitating others. I believe there are lots of people, who like me hate notches/punch-holes, rounded display corners (which take away screen area) and bezelless designs (which make holding the phone difficult without covering the display with hands). I hope that other fans will also join and take the time to express their frustration with the latest changes and make Sony design teams listen. Otherwise we'll quietly vote with our wallets. I hope this helps Sony to revise its designs for future models. Thank you.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

bb25 — Tue, 02 Apr 2019 20:33:51 GMT

Oh look at the compatibility list!

Headphone jack compatible!

Stereo Headset STH32

https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/#filter=.compatibility-xperia1

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

Uliwooly — Tue, 02 Apr 2019 21:24:11 GMT

@bb25

That's a mistake

@bb25 @sonyuser8

only the Xperia 10 and 10 Plus are 3.5mm compatible. I already escalated that.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

sound10 — Mon, 08 Apr 2019 08:17:16 GMT

When will Sony realise that they are losing their loyal customers over the removal of the headphone jack. I don't understand why Sony has to follow Apple. Some of my friends have the latest flagship Samsung phones with a headphone jack. I will not buy another Sony flagship phone until the headphone jack is bought back. There will be many other customers like me. I also find the 21:9 aspect ratio totally bizarre tbh on the latest Sony phones. Most content especially YouTube is 16:9, therefore when will 21:9 be relevant on a smartphone. Absolutely bizarre thinking in my humble opinion. Hardly anyone is going to watch a full film on such a small screen. Again, what is Sony thinking here?

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

Machiaveli — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:18:21 GMT

Unfortunately Sony is just another random mark that just tries to find some new growth drivers. Nowadays every phone makers can't make what the future phone could look likes due to technologies not yet ready or discovered (transparent screen, holographic animations and so on like ones you can see in sci-fi movies) so we're seeing some really dumb things like notches, bezelfree screen, dubious display ratios, ridiculous big phones, removal of functionality that isn't replaced with something better (removed mainly for the sake of saying "we got something new!" and larger profits ala Apple's greediness frenzy) 🙄

If they remained stuck with logical choices like headphones jack plug, bezels to handle phones comfortably, regulars screen ratios, etc. most of people (shareholder, hipsters, and others dudes like that) would yell like angry kids.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

ds2mph — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:46:27 GMT

Why Sony give Mr. JACK and FM Radio only to mid-range products like Xperia L3,10,10+ ?? Weird...

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

pressefr — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:48:42 GMT

Yes, bring the headphone jack back, or even the ridiculous screw version from your DSLR.

Oh, don't forget powered 5-pole noise-canceling.

I don't know enough to understand, but phantom power audio jack for noise-canceling lavaliers.

Maybe not the male version.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

azzido — Tue, 21 May 2019 21:32:12 GMT

uliwooly you have escalated that meaning you mentioned them they should bring back the jack?
Was there any response?

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

traveller_cz — Wed, 22 May 2019 09:33:25 GMT

They removed the jack, dedicated camera button, fm radio, moved the finger print sensor... just to make an ordinary phone like many others. They lost the unique look of their phones and also lost their loyal customers.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

jeff84 — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:19:29 GMT

Yep totally agree. I've been loyal to Sony phones for the entire time sony have made phones, including Sony erricson pre-smart era, but I stupidly bought the XZ3 and haaaaate it with a passion.

Pretty much hate everything about it...

- constantly having to touch the screen twice to get it to register the press

- the slippery smooth exterior that requires a case for grip otherwise its like holding an eel

- the sluggishness of the OS, constant freezing

- the stupid curved screen which makes selecting the edges impossible (so frustrating for emails!)

- the fingerprint scanner on the back so unlocking in a cradle or on a flat surface is impossible and constantly accidentally smudge the camera instead

- the diabolically frustrating "wake" screen or whatever its called that shows you the clock... And after nearly a year of owning this phone I still don't know whether the screen is on or off and it requires about 3 actions to unlock the **bleep** thing!! Then if its showing the clock I instinctively press the lock button, thinking it will close the phone but it unlocks it instead! Worst user design I've ever seen on any phone I've ever had.

- double tap to unlock is no longer available... As that stupid wake screen needs to be active, so double tapping takes you to that wake screen then you have to double tap again (!) to get into the phone! Makes double tap completely pointless and it used to be amazing on the XZ.

- but the most annoying thing on this heap of dog mess of a phone is the lack of Jack.

I was holding out for news of the Xperia2 but now I know it also will be without a jack, Sony is forcing me to change brands for the first time since they've been making phones. I'm going to get a Samsung s10 which is smaller (that's a good thing!), more powerful, and has a jack. Just a shame it has Samsung bloatware on it.

I've literally never not owned a current Sony phone... But they've strayed from the path way too far this time. Toodles, sony.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

RottenFoxBreath — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:53:31 GMT

@sonyuser8 wrote:
Hello, I'd like to express my disappointment that Sony has abandoned its typical design (dedicated camera button + 3.5mm headphone jack + bezels) which made it stand out and now follows the trend of pointless changes by dropping the headphone jack in flagships or the camera button in mid-range devices - providing solutions that seek to solve problems which don't even exist! The 21:9 display seems logical idea for multitasking and I support it (although it would be nice to have various display ratio options). In my opinion forcing customers to choose either a dedicated camera button or a 3.5mm headphones jack in the latest smartphones line (Xperia 1, 10, 10 Plus) is the first step of Sony losing its identity and blindly imitating others. I believe there are lots of people, who like me hate notches/punch-holes, rounded display corners (which take away screen area) and bezelless designs (which make holding the phone difficult without covering the display with hands). I hope that other fans will also join and take the time to express their frustration with the latest changes and make Sony design teams listen. Otherwise we'll quietly vote with our wallets. I hope this helps Sony to revise its designs for future models. Thank you.

The headphone port is dead, long live the headphone port.

Frankly, a sign of the times, wireless/bluetooth is amazing, no need for the port any more.

And if you do need to wire up a set, there's a dongle for it.

In fact, plug in the right DAC/dongle, and you improve the sound coming from the phone.

The other stuff I can see your point, as it seems the more rounded/curved the screen edges, the more slippery the phones are, or it seems that way at least.

And punch hole/notch/tear drop cameras are an absolute disgrace.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

RottenFoxBreath — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 12:57:56 GMT

@bb25 wrote:
Oh look at the compatibility list!
Headphone jack compatible!
Stereo Headset STH32
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/#filter=.compatibility-xperia1

The STH32 is a working accessory, as you can use the usbC - 3.5mm adaptor, that comes with the phone, for those and other earphones.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

RottenFoxBreath — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:05:19 GMT

@traveller_cz wrote:
They removed the jack, dedicated camera button, fm radio,

The headphone port is dead...And on Samsung's Note 10 it's gone also.

The camera button is still there!

fm radio...who listens to fm radio these days...you have dedicated radio apps, also Tunein, Spotify, etc.

If you have issues, with radio, either get a better network, that allows data coverage, or get a better contract/provider, who gives a decent amount of data for your money..

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

jeff84 — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:42:25 GMT

Urgh, if I have to hear just one more person say "no one needs a jack" I'm going to scream. Clearly these people never have to charge and listen at the same time. They clearly never have to get a long haul flight. They clearly never seem to understand that wireless headphones can still be used on phones with a jack. They clearly never mind about needing pointless added dongles and bits that need separately charging!

If the S10, a better phone in almost every conceivable way, can fit it all that better stuff in a smaller case and with a headphone jack... Then there really isn't any excuse.

Just because *you* don't need a jack and are fine with 2-4 hours listen time before you need to separately charge equipment, doesn't mean everyone else is.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

MarlonUk1 — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:57:27 GMT

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

RottenFoxBreath — Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:14:08 GMT

@jeff84 wrote:
Urgh, if I have to hear just one more person say "no one needs a jack" I'm going to scream. Clearly these people never have to charge and listen at the same time. They clearly never have to get a long haul flight. They clearly never seem to understand that wireless headphones can still be used on phones with a jack. They clearly never mind about needing pointless added dongles and bits that need separately charging!
If the S10, a better phone in almost every conceivable way, can fit it all that better stuff in a smaller case and with a headphone jack... Then there really isn't any excuse.
Just because *you* don't need a jack and are fine with 2-4 hours listen time before you need to separately charge equipment, doesn't mean everyone else is.

Ok, point 1, Bluetooth headphones, And I can still charge if needed.

And yes, long flights, then I would use the WH-1000XM3 = 30hours listening time. And they came with the phone, couldn't ask for a better set, and they sound amazing.

And I can use them wired if I want, I have a very nice DAC dongle, which you really wouldn't know is there, if I did need to go wired, but anyhoo, the phone comes with one.

And like I say, 2-4 hours listening time....it's 30 hours on the 1000XM3's.

It's like Cassette Tape - CD/Mp3/Flac, etc, VHS to DVD, and DVD to Blu-ray, yes they were/are all good, but times progress.

If you are seriously into music, then I would guess no matter if you had a phone or not, a pocket HD file player, and a headphone amp would be a must, and a decent set of balanced cans.

40-50hours plus listening time and amazing sound quality.

The S10 better in every conceivable way topic though would be for another day!

No headphone jack, no XZ2-it's so easy

Praxistest — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:51:47 GMT

The missing headphone jack was the last idiotic descision of Apple, that triggerd me to by a Sony Xperia XZ1 compact.

See my Video on that https://studio.youtube.com/video/7N3BQTSTB40/edit

Now the successor doesn not have it as well, saves me a lot of money

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

Infinite_ — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 08:00:32 GMT

I had similar issues with the XZ2. First week was fine then an update made my Marley headphone seemingly crash the phone! Volume would go up and down apps come ramdomnly popping up. I tried factory resets, update searches until I tried buying sony headphones. Yep an update made my phone spaztic via non sony headphones. Disgusting ploy.

And then the sony dongle broke. So I had to high and low for a quality dongle. Nearly a yr later the USB C port itself no longer accepted any dongle. The slightest bump and the dongle falls out making the phone useless as I use it mostly as a walkman. Didn't sony invent them? I also enjoy watching youtube, etc and not annoying others around me by using headphones.

The other thing I found super annoying about sony phones, I've owned many, is alarms. Why do I need to turn the phone on and off near every night just so my alarms work? is this not the simplest of operations for a phone to perform?

Anyway threw the phone hard at floor last twice night. Heaps broke it.

Will buy a Samsung simply for the SEPERATE headphone port.

I have a Sony Bravia, soundbar, alarm clock, PS4 PRO. I am a loyal customer for many yrs.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

Ji-kin — Mon, 02 Sep 2019 21:27:02 GMT

Agreed! Definitely bring back the headphone jack and true dual front facing stereo speakers. But also try to keep the forehead and chin bezels small if possible. And also reintegrate the fingerprint scanner with the power button. It's just way more convenient that way.

Re: Bring back the headphone jack!!!

ds2mph — Thu, 05 Sep 2019 05:18:56 GMT

1. Bring back Jack

2. Bring back FM Radio

3. Bring back Clear bass, Clear Audio+

4. Bring back Walkman application with SensMe

5. Add S-Master HX